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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://sqlserver.ro/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Business Intelligence - Data Mining</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/18/ShowForum.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP2 (Build: 61129.1)</generator><item><title>Re: Configure SQL Server 2005 for Office 2007 Data Mining (Usor cu pianul pe scari)</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1590.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:02:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:1590</guid><dc:creator>ggciubuc</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1590.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=1590</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Ca sa prelungesc discutia pe marginea articolului, acolo observ ca nu te poti juca cu dm in Office 2007 daca nu ai o conexiune&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;la un server Analysis Services. Faptul ca nu poti face dm local, asa cum faci un cub OLAP in Excel in 2003, mi se pare o gatuire in noul Excel&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;e adevarat, raportat la dm. Poate fi luata in calcul observatia asta in cadrul abordarii unei alte versiuni de Office ?&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Configure SQL Server 2005 for Office 2007 Data Mining (Usor cu pianul pe scari)</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1589.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:24:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:1589</guid><dc:creator>bogdan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1589.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=1589</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Exact, setarea se aplica pe tot server-ul. Server Configuration Utility face si alte configurari specifice bazei de date (de exemplu, permite adaugarea analistilor din companie ca administratori pe o baza de date dedicate modelarii din Excel. Astfel, acestia pot crea modele persistente in acea baza de date)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Configure SQL Server 2005 for Office 2007 Data Mining (Usor cu pianul pe scari)</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1587.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:55:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:1587</guid><dc:creator>ggciubuc</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1587.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=1587</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana&gt;Inseamna ca, chiar daca rulezi Server Configuration Utility de mai multe ori conteaza ce ai setat , on sau off, ultima oara &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana&gt;in acel check box.( Ma asteptasem sa se pastreze setarea pt fiecare din bazele de date vizate la fiecare rulare a wizard-ului!)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Configure SQL Server 2005 for Office 2007 Data Mining (Usor cu pianul pe scari)</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1585.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:34:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:1585</guid><dc:creator>bogdan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1585.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=1585</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana&gt;&amp;gt; Concluzia acestor randuri este ca check box-ul de care vorbeam “Use temporary model” da caracterul temporar al&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; structurilor de dm si nu check boxul de la “Server Configuration Utility”&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana&gt;Modelele temporare (Session mining models) dispar in momentul in care conexiunea este inchisa. Tot odata, sunt vizibile numai in conexiunea in care au fost create.&amp;nbsp;In plus, nu&amp;nbsp;e nevoie sa fii administrator pe catalogul (baza de date) curenta&amp;nbsp; pentru a crea astfel de obiecte.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In configuratia de instalare a SQL Server 2005, crearea de modele temporare nu este permisa (din motive de securitate). Server Configuration Utility, prin check-box-ul respectiv, permite crearea acestor modele.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In Data mining client (addin-ul folosit mai sus) exista optiunea de a crea modele persistente sau temporare. Desigur, temporare se pot crea doar daca serverul permite acest lucru. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Celalalt addin din Data Mining for Office 2007, Table Analytics Tools, creaza exclusiv modele temporare (i.e. nu poate fi folosit daca server-ul nu permite modele temporare)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;</description></item><item><title>Configure SQL Server 2005 for Office 2007 Data Mining (Usor cu pianul pe scari)</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1570.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:48:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:1570</guid><dc:creator>ggciubuc</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/1570.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=1570</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Configure SQL Server 2005 for Office 2007 Data
Mining (Usor cu pianul pe scari)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;





&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Ai date intr-un fisier Excel deschis
cu Office 2007 si vrei sa aplici unul din algoritmii implementati pentru a le
studia .&lt;br&gt;Apesi pe butonul “Classify” care te baga in Microsoft decision Tree
insa sistemul tzipa si spune ca este necesara o conexiune&lt;br&gt;catre un server
Analysis Services.&lt;br&gt;Curios!&lt;br&gt;Ma asteptam sa se petreca fenomenul intalnit la
configurarea unui cub OLAP din Excel , salvat local, fara a face apel la un&lt;br&gt;server OLAP! Asa ca n-ai decat sa mergi pe&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;Start -&amp;gt; Programs -&amp;gt; Microsoft SQL Server 2005 DM Add-ins -&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;Server Configuration Utility; se declanseaza wizard-ul mult asteptat care te
pune sa :&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;1.&lt;span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;alegi
serverul gazda (“localhost” implicit)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;2.&lt;span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;ai
posibilitatea sa permiti serverului sa stocheze (check-box-ul “Allow creating
temporary mining models”) sau nu&lt;span&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;modelele dm , temporar, intr-o baza de date&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;3.&lt;span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Poti
sa stochezi modelele intr-o baza de date noua sau o alta existenta&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;4.&lt;span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Finish&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;























&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Am facut un experiment in care am
construit 2 baze de date Anlysis Services : DMAddinsDB_NoTemp care va detine&lt;br&gt;structuri permanente si DMAddinsDB_Temp in care bagam structuri temporare;
intrebarea e ce inseamna acest caracter&lt;br&gt;“temporar” al unei structuri de dm in
Office?. Sa vedem.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In categoria de optiuni “Connection”
de pe bara de meniu ai posibilitatea sa creezi conexiuni catre bazele de date
specificate&lt;br&gt;respectiv “DMAddinsDB_NoTemp(localhost)” si&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;“DMAddinsDB_Temp(localhost)”; numai una dintre
ele poate fi desemnata&lt;br&gt;conexiune curenta. Iata ce am facut dupa ce am desemnat
“DMAddinsDB_NoTemp(localhost)” conexiune curenta:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;-click pe “Classify”
pentru a face o structura dm pentru algoritmul Decision Trees cu numele
Risc_Dt_NoTemp1 si modelul&lt;br&gt;Classify Risc_NoTemp1 cu toate optiunile implicite&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;-din nou
click pe “Classify” pentru constructia structurii Risc_Dt_NoTemp2 si a modelului
Classify Risc_NoTemp2 pentru care&lt;br&gt;am marcat “Use temporary model” asa cum se
vede in imaginea urmatoare:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt; &lt;img src="http://sqlserver.ro/photos/snapshots/images/1566/original.aspx" height="355" width="524"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;-daca ne
uitam in SQL Server Management Studio se vede ca a 2-a structura nu apare&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;img src="http://sqlserver.ro/photos/snapshots/images/1569/original.aspx"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;dar daca
daca accesam optiunea Browse de pe meniuri il avem in lista de modele si putem
vizualiza aceste date&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;img src="http://sqlserver.ro/photos/snapshots/images/1567/original.aspx"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Dupa ce
inchid Excelul (deci conexiunea se inchide) si&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;redeschid agenda, nu apare decat structura Risc_Dt_NoTemp1 pentru care&lt;br&gt;check-box-ul “Use temporary model” nu era pe on.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;

&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Facem
acelasi lucruri pentru conexiunea “DMAddinsDB_Temp(localhost)” care permite
prin wizard structuri temporare.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;









&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;-Construiesc
structura Risc_DT_Temp1 si modelul Classify Risc_Temp1 fara marcaj la
check-box-ul “Use temporary model” ;&lt;br&gt;deschid Management Studio-ul si vad
structura si modelul la locul lor. Inchid Excel-ul si m-astept sa piara
structura si modelul&lt;br&gt;de pe fatza pamantului, doar s-au facut pe o structura
temporara! &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nu e asa!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Se
pastreaza si apar in Studio!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Mai
departe construiesc structura Risc_DT_Temp2 si modelul Classify Risc_Temp2 cu
marcaj la acel check-box.&lt;br&gt;Nu apare in Studio insa imi ranjeste larg din Browse
model.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Concluzia
acestor randuri este ca check box-ul de care vorbeam “Use temporary model” da
caracterul temporar al&lt;br&gt;structurilor de dm si nu check boxul de la “Server
Configuration Utility”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Mai departe , rostul folosirii
acestor structuri temporare in locul celor permanente este o alta discutie ! &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Gigi Ciubuc.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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