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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://sqlserver.ro/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Intrebari generale</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/16/ShowForum.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP2 (Build: 61129.1)</generator><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5461.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:12:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5461</guid><dc:creator>rremus</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5461.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5461</wfw:commentRss><description>Ai baze de date in AUTO_CLOSE mode. Pune-l pe OFF:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ALTER DATABASE [&amp;lt;mydbname&amp;gt;] SET AUTO_CLOSE OFF WITH ROLLBACK IMMEDIATE;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5452.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:36:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5452</guid><dc:creator>ania</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5452.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5452</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; Am avut si eu o problema asemanatoare astazi numai ca mesajul era CHECKCATALOG.&lt;BR&gt;&amp;nbsp; Dupa ce am trecut o baza de date de pe sqlserver 2000 pe sqlserver 2005 la orice operatie de tip ddl imi aparea un mesaj care specifica ca baza de date este corupta si imi indica sa rulez CHECKCATALOG.&lt;BR&gt;&amp;nbsp; Deoarece era stresanta aparita frecventa a acestui mesaj am inceput sa investighez problema.Am ramas uimita sa constat ca desi o tabela fusese stearsa din baza de date in tabelele de sistem inca mai existau dependinte ale ei (cheia primara,indexi). Stergerea datelor corupte din tabelele de sistem este mai dificila in 2005 pentru ca datele sunt prezentate utilizatorilor prin intermediul view-urior. Acest lucru a fost posibil prin utilizarea unei conexiuni dedicate pentru administrator. Solutia poate fii gasita la &lt;A href="http://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/paul/2008/06/12/TechEdDemoUsingTheSQL2005DedicatedAdminConnectionToFixMsg8992CorruptSystemTables.aspx"&gt;http://www.sqlskills.com/blogs/paul/2008/06/12/TechEdDemoUsingTheSQL2005DedicatedAdminConnectionToFixMsg8992CorruptSystemTables.aspx&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5451.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:17:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5451</guid><dc:creator>LGS</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5451.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5451</wfw:commentRss><description>Multumesc mult de tot. Aceasta era problema. Se pare ca mai am multe de descoperit.&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5450.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:31:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5450</guid><dc:creator>B_gd_n[ ]Sahlean</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5450.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5450</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;a href="http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2774671&amp;amp;SiteID=1"&gt;&lt;span id="_ctl0_MainContent_PostFlatView"&gt;&lt;span id="_ctl0_MainContent_PostFlatView__ctl0_PostSubject" class="forumName"&gt;Re: checkdb running constatly&lt;/span&gt;
                                            &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5449.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:10:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5449</guid><dc:creator>rsocol</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5449.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5449</wfw:commentRss><description>Problema descrisă poate fi cauzată de opţiunea AUTO_CLOSE pentru bazele de date. Ce rezultat returnează un &lt;b&gt;SELECT DATABASEPROPERTY('BazaDeDate','IsAutoClose')&lt;/b&gt; ? Dacă returnează 1, ar trebui încercat un &lt;b&gt;ALTER DATABASE BazaDeDate SET AUTO_CLOSE OFF&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Răzvan&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5448.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:52:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5448</guid><dc:creator>B_gd_n[ ]Sahlean</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5448.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5448</wfw:commentRss><description>EMS adica &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sqlmanager.net/"&gt;http://www.sqlmanager.net/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;De ce folositi EMS ? De ce nu utilizati SQL Server Management Studio ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Te-ai gandit sa dezinstalezi EMS ? Eu nu prea am incredere in instrumentele non-MS (nu generalizez totusi) !&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5447.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:37:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5447</guid><dc:creator>LGS</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5447.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5447</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Stati sa vedeti ca problema vine din complet alta parte.&lt;br&gt;
Este foarte interesant ce se intampla aici.&lt;br&gt;
Iata rezumatul&lt;br&gt;
___________________________________________________________________________________&lt;br&gt;
CE UTILIZAM :&lt;br&gt;
O aplicatie care utilizeaza baze de date SQL. (conectare ODBC ) – scrisa in
Visual Fox Pro 9.0&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Conectarea se face cu “Sqlstringconnect” – presupun ca
ODBC&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Un server SQL 2005 - SBS Kit&lt;br&gt;
___________________________________________________________________________________&lt;br&gt;
CARE ESTE PROBLEMA CU CARE NE CONFRUNTAM&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;- Aplicatia ruleaza extrem ! extrem de greu ( deschide o forma in 18
secunde in loc 0.000001 )&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;- Aplicatia utilizeaza un meniu, care la randul lui poate apela mai multe
executabile.&lt;br&gt;
___________________________________________________________________________________&lt;br&gt;
CE AM CONSTATAT IN URMA INVESTIGATIILOR FACUTE ( tot, voi scuti etapele prin
care am trecut )&lt;br&gt;
1) In urma optimizarii indecsilor nu s-a obtinut mare lucru in performanta&lt;br&gt;
2) In Logul de SQL aparea foarte frecvent linia aferenta CheckDB-ului. ( si nu
era apelat de noi )&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;div style="border-style:none none solid;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color windowtext;border-width:medium medium 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 1pt;"&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="border:medium none;padding:0in;"&gt;(Este de fapt o informare cu
data la care s-a facut ultimul CheckDB pe baza pe care vrea sa o deschida)&lt;br&gt;
3) Nu existau Taskuri / Scheduled-uri / Joburi / orice altceva nici pe serverul
de SQL, nici in WIN 2003 R2&lt;br&gt;
4) Selecturile durau intre 700 si 900 ms in loc de 5 - 10 cat ar fi trebuit&lt;br&gt;
_____________________________________&lt;br&gt;
5) TOTUL FUNCTIONEAZA FULGER ! daca pe server se deschide un EMS si se conecta
la toate bazele utilizate.&lt;br&gt;
( nici nu mai apareau CheckDB-uri in loguri, formele se incarcau in sub o
secunda ( in loc de 18 )... super !!!)&lt;br&gt;
_____________________________________&lt;br&gt;
6) CONCLUZII &lt;br&gt;
6.1) Cand se stabileste o conexie noua la serverul de SQL, acesta deschide baza
de date catre care se trimite selectul si &lt;br&gt;
incetineste foarte tare executia aplicatiilor. ( Fiind vorba de mai multe
executabile, fiecare din ele deschide baza de date )&lt;br&gt;
6.2) Cand se deschide o baza de date, se executa si CheckDB-ul ( care se face
instant si nu supara pe nimeni - nu asta era problema )&lt;br&gt;
6.3) Daca pe server s-au deschis o data bazele de date, acestea raman deschis,
si practic, tot timpul alocat de clienti deschiderii acestora&lt;br&gt;
se sterge cu buretele ( cred ca 90 % din timpul de executie initial - fara
EMS-ul pornit pe server)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;/div&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;INTREBARI RAMASE&lt;br&gt;
7) Este EMS-ul doar un factor care tine deschise bazele de date ?,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;8) Cu ce am putea s ail inlocuim pentru obtinerea acestui
rezultat ? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;9) Este singura solutie in cazul acestui gen de aplicatie ?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5444.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:58:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5444</guid><dc:creator>B_gd_n[ ]Sahlean</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5444.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5444</wfw:commentRss><description>Încearcă &lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="color:Black;background-color:transparent;font-family:Courier New;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:Blue;background-color:transparent;font-family:Courier New;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;"&gt;SELECT&lt;/span&gt; *&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="color:Blue;background-color:transparent;font-family:Courier New;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;"&gt;FROM&lt;/span&gt; &lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:LawnGreen;background-color:transparent;font-family:Courier New;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;"&gt;syscomments&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span style="color:Blue;background-color:transparent;font-family:Courier New;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;"&gt;WHERE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color:Blue;background-color:transparent;font-family:Courier New;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;"&gt;text&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color:Silver;background-color:transparent;font-family:Courier New;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;"&gt;LIKE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="color:Red;background-color:transparent;font-family:Courier New;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;"&gt;'%CHECKDB%'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;pe baza de date problematică &lt;i&gt;si pe celelante baze de date&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5443.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:40:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5443</guid><dc:creator>B_gd_n[ ]Sahlean</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5443.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5443</wfw:commentRss><description>De vineri ruleaza trace-ul in SQL Server Profiler ? Ai curaj nu gluma.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Totusi, ce filtru/e ai definit in SQL Server Profiler ?&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5442.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:29:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5442</guid><dc:creator>LGS</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5442.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5442</wfw:commentRss><description>Am lasat profilerul sa iregistreze de vineri pana azi si am studiat mai atent ce a inregistrat.&lt;br&gt;Este adevarat ca nu apar CheckDB-uri decat atunci cand se utilizeaza aplicatiacu pricina. &lt;br&gt;Am reusit inclusiv sa identificam zona de selecturi apartinand documentului introdus. ( intercalat, s-au inregistrat in log CheckDB-uri )&lt;br&gt;Totusi, nu reusim sa vedem in profiler CheckDB-urile. &lt;br&gt;Poti sa ne spui la ce anume te-ai referit cand ai spus "Filtru Prea Puternic" ? ( ce anume trebui bifat in profiler ca sa reusim sa vedem si cine executa din aplicatie CheckDB-ul asta ? ) ( din ce categorie face parte ? )&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Avem acces la codul SP-urilor. Aici nu am gasit nimic ce ar putea avea efectul asta.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Multumesc, Stefan&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5441.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:16:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5441</guid><dc:creator>B_gd_n[ ]Sahlean</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5441.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5441</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://sqlserver.ro/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;LGS:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Nu e in regula de loc. Nu apare nimic in Profiler in legatura cu CheckDB. Apare numai in loguri. Asta inseamna ca ceva anume... executat de serverul de SQL... apeleaza chestia asta. Si nu inteleg de ce ! Repet.... nu apare mesajul de care vorbim decat in loguri, nu si in Profiler. Ce am incercat sa fac a fost sa compar timpii din loguri cu ce am gasit in profiler si sa identific potentialul vinovat pentru chestia asta. Nu am reusit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;Intr-adevar, ft. posibil sa fie filtrul de vină.&lt;br&gt;Ce filtru ai folosit ?&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5439.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:26:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5439</guid><dc:creator>ignatandrei</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5439.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5439</wfw:commentRss><description>Sa rezum :&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1. Apare in log-uri din 10 in 10 minute &lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2. Nu aveti job-uri care sa faca checkdb&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3. Nu apare in profiler ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Banuiala mea e ca 3 e configurat cu un filtru prea puternic&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Intrebare : apare si noaptea din 10 in 10 minute ?( de ex., dupa ora 22 ) ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Daca da, spuneti businessului ca faceti o mentenanta si sa nu acceseze serverul dupa ora 22. Va logati, kill la toate sesiunile si refresh din 2 in 2 minute la process activity ( nu profiler) - ar trebui sa apara...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Daca nu - incepe sa devina ciudat . Banuiala mea este atunci din aplicatie ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5438.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:58:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5438</guid><dc:creator>LGS</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5438.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5438</wfw:commentRss><description>Nu e in regula de loc. Nu apare nimic in Profiler in legatura cu CheckDB. Apare numai in loguri. Asta inseamna ca ceva anume... executat de serverul de SQL... apeleaza chestia asta. Si nu inteleg de ce ! Repet.... nu apare mesajul de care vorbim decat in loguri, nu si in Profiler. Ce am incercat sa fac a fost sa compar timpii din loguri cu ce am gasit in profiler si sa identific potentialul vinovat pentru chestia asta. Nu am reusit.&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5422.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:54:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5422</guid><dc:creator>B_gd_n[ ]Sahlean</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5422.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5422</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://sqlserver.ro/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;LGS:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Multumim frumos, o sa incercam sa ne dam seama de unde vine chestia asta. Apare in loguri si din 10 in 10 minute. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cand terminati &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;investigaţia&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, publicaţi aici rezultatele.&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: CHECKDB for database Message - Foarte Frecvent</title><link>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5421.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:39:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">963f3a18-65dd-4aad-905c-b785cfe1d7c7:5421</guid><dc:creator>LGS</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/thread/5421.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://sqlserver.ro/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=5421</wfw:commentRss><description>Multumim frumos, o sa incercam sa ne dam seama de unde vine chestia asta. Apare in loguri si din 10 in 10 minute. &lt;br&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>